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Old 12-05-2006, 12:22 AM
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Well I live in a border state and for the most part get along with my niehbors. I just find it odd that there is no way that I know of to pass the rifles to my relatives north of the border. I too don't feel all that wecome when I go north of the border but it is mostly the the language change that has done that. LOL anyone who use to visit Quebec before the mid 80's knows what I mean.

We know we have Canadian friends on this board and I am looking for help from them. I am talking about family so I drop my political views when I want to help them.
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:36 AM
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The reason I get in an uproar(I know I should not) is simple. Five of us went on a bear hunt in two vehicles. We had to pay a tariff to take our rifles(not ML's) into the country. My friend in the other truck(there were two people in their truck) was denied entrance with a firearm, because he had a DUI conviction. I repeat he was denied entrance. We had to drive back to Erie, and drop off two rifles. We crossed the next day, and two of them were without their rifles. Fortunately the guide had a couple of extra rifles.

Canada accepted his money for the hunt. Canada accepted his money for the license. Canada did not accept him. Now a draft dodger or a soldier who is AWOL can go to Canada and be accepted, actually even encouraged. But no DUI's. Cayugad is right, this is not a political sight. A moderator should have struck the topic. But the truth is the truth. I apologize if I ruffled any feathers. Tom.
FWIW I know canadian citzens who have been denied access to the US on the same premise. So it happens on both sides of the line just depends on the custom agent you get, as I know both american and canadian citzens who have been not denied with DUI convictions. It boils down to a criminal record and a DUI is on your record whether you like it or not!

I won't deny the liberals suck and you'll never see me vote red as long as I am alive. However we recently voted in a government who is not liberal and against the current firearm policies. So their is a glimmer of hope things will get better. The levy's as you call them are part of the registeration process put in place by the liberals it is none other than a registry which of course has costs. I don't advocate it but such is life.

I am deeply sorry you hate my country and think I suck for being born/raised herebut such is life. I have had the great pleasure to guide many american and europeans who didn't share your outlook. I have also had the pleasure to travel to your country on many occasions and while I have met some real Jerks the majority have been just like us. Even though they don't say "EH"..lol! Tourism in both countries is a big business and I could easily say the exact same thing as you about all they cared about was my money, well actually your moneythat i had to pay way more for to getreally nothing I couldn't get at home, but such is life and when your travelling expect to pay! IYou are entitled to your opinions. Though I am proud to be canadian and thankful to be living/raising my family in such a great country. We are not as up front about our pride as we are considered the quite North Americans but make no mistake we are just as proud and hard working as our southern neighbours. I am especially greatful for living in the greatest place to feed my passion the outdoors and i have no problem sharing it with other but I also don;t think they should ride for free either (as i pay for it more than just once a year).

I have no clue about sending guns up here but ML are considered firearms and subject to being registered like a CF, etc. One way would be through a dealer but not sure they'll want to let 2 ML slip by without any profit. Best of luck to you.

Yes costs more up here, duty, freight and exchange are some reasons why.
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Old 12-05-2006, 02:30 AM
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"I am deeply sorry you hate my country and think I suck for being born/raised herebut such is life."

Don't take it personal. We probably have more bleeding hearts in the US, than what you have in Canada. My problem is with the policies, not the people. I have hunted in 3 provinces, probably 20 different states, and 2 other countries, and I will submit that the rudest people I ran into was in New Jersey-with Canada second.

When you hunt in the western states the entire community welcomes you not just the outfitters. And it costs alot more to hunt in the west, than what it does in Canada. If you are a guide in Canada then I know you have heard all the things that I have mentioned. And probably a whole lot more. Tom.


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Old 12-05-2006, 03:00 AM
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I'm going to jump in on this DUI thing. My little brother quite a few years ago did something stupid and ended up with a DUI record.About three years later his hockey team started planning a trip to New England to play a series of games. He was advised to attempt to get a "pardon" for his DUI record or he would not be able to cross into the United States. After much red tape he finally received it just in time. So it does work both ways. The US is just as tough on us as we are on them.

By the way, Tom, what river did you fish in New Brunswick?
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:27 AM
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I fished the St. Croix-just across the border from Maine. I bear hunted there, and fished in the mornings. I believe the little town was called ST. Stephen. You cross a little bridge, and bang we were in Canada. It was probably 1982 when I was there. No border trouble at all. We had a great time. I caught alot of brook trout-I brought my own **it worms from a horse barn here in WV. The trout were not real big. The largest I caught was about 2 pounds, but the fishing was good. We were going to fish for land locks in another stream the guide knew of, but we never got to. The bear hunting was good. Tom.
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Old 12-05-2006, 07:52 AM
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The thing that gets me is when you lump myself and other hunters in the "you voted them in" statement I didnt vote them in they never got my vote and never will, Back to the orginal question buy the muzzleloader drive across the border go to the post office and mail it to him easy enough...or tell him to try SIR mailorder they have pretyy decent prices...but just do as I said buy it bring it and ship it no problem..
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Old 12-05-2006, 10:24 AM
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I dont know what kind of guns your talking about but if its a muzzleloader they can go and pick one up in the US and bring it back no problem at all or you bring one for him he just needs to get it verified by a gun verifier and register it end of the problem atleast here in ontario thats how it works I can see it beeing differnt there, I baught all my muzzleloader in the US between myself and family 6 so far..cant beat the price
My understanding is that if it is a FLINTLOCK, he won't even have to register it.....
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Old 12-05-2006, 01:36 PM
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"I am deeply sorry you hate my country and think I suck for being born/raised herebut such is life."

Don't take it personal. We probably have more bleeding hearts in the US, than what you have in Canada. My problem is with the policies, not the people. I have hunted in 3 provinces, probably 20 different states, and 2 other countries, and I will submit that the rudest people I ran into was in New Jersey-with Canada second.

When you hunt in the western states the entire community welcomes you not just the outfitters. And it costs alot more to hunt in the west, than what it does in Canada. If you are a guide in Canada then I know you have heard all the things that I have mentioned. And probably a whole lot more. Tom.

Tom, if i would have said USA SUCKS I would expect my head handed to me on a plate. Do I take it personally? Not in the sense that what you think of my country really means a hill of beans to me but I feel I have the right to defend my nation and flag just like you have the right to defend thestars and stripes. I am sure you know not everyone in canada voted for the laws or the morons who were elected, the same can be said for the US! Majority rules in both countries and we all must live by the decision made who will govern. Since you asked yes I have ran into people who all they did was beak, though I have a feeling if the red carpet was rolled out, the finest silverware and china were used and handing them a trophy on platethey'd still beak. The overwhelming majority loved the country, the people, etc. As such manywill continue to return to visit, hunt and fish here b/c we have something to offer to those people that they feel they can't get in their home state or country. As far as the paperwork required to enter any outfitter worth his salt will direct and have the information required for the client arriving by land, sea or air so that they transition smoothly and quickly through customs. I am not 100% sure but have heard getting into the US with a firearm is next to impossible for a canadian private citzen, I have never personally tried but know guys who swap hunt guided trips and they borrow firearms vs take their own. So like said it is equally a tougher border crossing now a days for us all!

Enjoy being a proud American and I will do the same as a Canadian! Have a good one and take care


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Old 12-05-2006, 08:20 PM
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Stop being brainwashed and narrow minded. I am a Democrat and I love guns. I have pistols, rifles, shotguns, etc. You need to wake up and stop believing the crap you are being spoon fed. President Bush is a sportsman. Yeah right. He is another pretend tough guy but is really a rich pansy.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:04 PM
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Hey, Stop it!!

I just want some help giving my aunt and uncle a couple of guns (m/l) as I stated earlier my politics stop when it comes to family so if politics is all you have to add to this thread please don't post you hav'nt helped me out at all.

I guess my title of the thread didn't help but that is what my aunt said to me when I told her I just could not transfer the rifle to her but I know Canada has many great sportsman and the bashing needs to stop.

So if you can help please do, if not shut your pie holes. She is here for now less than a week and I want to help her out.

Let me know if there is anyway to transfer m/l to my relatives.
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