100 vs. 150
10-29-2006, 04:22 PM
#11
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 25,116
RE: 100 vs. 150
I'm only a beginner. I shoot the 150 grains. I accidently put in 2 pellets instead of the 3 once...and my bullet was a foot low..
The150 grain of powder kicks like a mule. Feels like a H&R 12 guage shooting a slug with no recoil pad. Ouch
The150 grain of powder kicks like a mule. Feels like a H&R 12 guage shooting a slug with no recoil pad. Ouch
10-29-2006, 05:24 PM
#12
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
RE: 100 vs. 150
My Knight prefers 90 grains Pyrodex R-S or 90 grains Goex FF...I'm 2 1/2 high at 100 yards and 3 inches low at 150...I have killed deer out to 143 yards with this load behind a 250 SST...The 45/70 accounted for plenty of deer, bearand buffalo...It shot a 45 grain bullet and 70 grains of black powder...In my .54 flinter my normal loading is 80 grains of FF...With it I have killedover 30 whitetails and this is with a patched round ball, when you go to a saboted bullet you go to a higher ballistic coefficient and can take longer shots....I have used up to 125 grains in it and it is much more pleasant to shoot at these levels than a modern inline with 150 grains...I just don't see the thrill of killing a deer with a muzzleloader at over 150 yards...Most deer with centerfire rifles are still killed within 100 yards, just setup for this type of shooting.
10-31-2006, 02:28 PM
#14
Typical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Posts: 857
RE: 100 vs. 150
I the area I hunt, the maximum yardage I will probably shoot is around 50-75, so I only pack 100 grains of powder. Unless you are hunting fields and need to reach out to around 200 yards, 150 grains is usually overkill.
10-31-2006, 03:01 PM
#15
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 986
RE: 100 vs. 150
I elk hunt and usually run 100gr. or less of Black Mag'3 and 300gr. bullets. This load shoots completely through an elk unless big bone is hit. I also limit my shots to 120 yards or less. Have shot some at 80 yards. I usually get drawn for antlerless as the chances are better and I am basically a meat hunter. Big cows are as hard to put down as big bulls. They are not quite as thick but they have a lot of staying power after a deadly hit if they see you and know you are after them. I have not seen a reason to load 150 grains although if I intended to shoot over 150 yards I would spend a lot of time trying it to see if I could get consistent groups at that distance. Honestly I don't shoot enough to try those long shots with any confidence.
10-31-2006, 04:40 PM
#16
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Elkin, N.C.
Posts: 811
RE: 100 vs. 150
ORIGINAL: Johnmorris
I generally stay at 100 gr or under not so hard on the shoulder. Most guns are more accurate with less powerful loads
I generally stay at 100 gr or under not so hard on the shoulder. Most guns are more accurate with less powerful loads
10-31-2006, 07:01 PM
#17
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Troy N.H.
Posts: 24
RE: 100 vs. 150
After triing both 100 and 150 grains with my Encore I did a little research and found barrel length makes a bit of a difference also. My Encore has a 26" barrel which can shoot 150 gr but does not gain as much performance as a 28" barrel. I decided to go with 100 gr andzeroed @ 150 yards my my 245 grain powerbelt is 3" high @ 75yards which is the highest point. With 150 gr it was 2.5 " high at 75 yards which was not much of a gain.
11-01-2006, 01:33 PM
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2006
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RE: 100 vs. 150
ORIGINAL: triggerhappy
The two loads you see mentioned the most by the rifle and powder mfg's etc. are the 100 grain load and the 150 grain load. I am curious on what the real world does.
Is there a big advantage going with the 150 over the 100? What are you using the most. Is it something different?
I am looking at this in terms of performance in todays inlines shooting saboted bullets.
The two loads you see mentioned the most by the rifle and powder mfg's etc. are the 100 grain load and the 150 grain load. I am curious on what the real world does.
Is there a big advantage going with the 150 over the 100? What are you using the most. Is it something different?
I am looking at this in terms of performance in todays inlines shooting saboted bullets.
I went to http://powerbeltbullets.com/ballistic.htmlto check out their published muzzle energies for 100 and 150 grain loads. The increase in muzzle energy ranged from 23% to 54%. The efficiency of the increasecorrelates to a functionof the sectional density of bullet (same as with smokeless powders too). So you find the efficiency similar between .45 cal 275 grain and .50 cal 348 grain which are close to the same in sectional density.
All the loads I use are less than 100 grains which is more than"enough" to do the job with an appropriate bullet, on anything in North America. I guess its just a matter of personal preference and what you are trying to achieve with the load. Good Luck.