lemoyne

Mike Hill,The POI was about 1.5 inch differance I am sighted with SW250 at 2 inch high @100 the PBPlatiniums chewed the bottom of the center out. Shot one through a 4x4 to day blew a hole the size of my fist out the back side and there was enough left to kick up the dust on the bunker 150 yd behind, I think they are much improved. Lee

lemoyne

fillae,they can be much different from one to another. Mine won't shoot anything but Pryodex ,Black or APP-FF real well.
I guess considering every thing thats been said you might try the 270 gr Sabor Tooth and the new PBP in 250 gr and 338 grMost Omegas will shoot them while the majority don't like them big bullets. Lee

frontier gander

The innovative pivoting ignition system of TC's Omega has revolutionized the black-powder industry. TC's patented pivoting action seals the 209 primer tight, ensuring 100% of the fire from the primer goes into the powder charge. There's no need for a capper or any other priming system, just insert the primer into the primer hole and close the breech. The magnum charge capability, up to 150 grains of black powder or Pyrodex®, sends slugs thundering downrange. Quick-Load Accurizer Muzzle System on the 28" barrel makes loading easy, and 1-in-28" twist stabilizes sabots for tack-driving accuracy. The pivoting action also makes the .50-caliber Omega easy to clean. There's no bolt assembly or breech assembly to clean, and you don't have to disassemble it to remove the breech plug. Tru-Glo® fiber-optic inserts in adjustable all-steel sights. Rifles are available rifle only, rifle with scope, rifle with starter kit, or rifle with scope and starter kit.

I found that on cabelas website. It seems like it was made for sabots and pyrodex. Who knows. All i know is, after seeing all these posts, i wont spend $575 for one. I wont even spend the $375 lowest price on it lol.

mayguy

Omega's probably aren't the best choice for conicals but mine shoots 348 gr PBs pretty well. If you use the orignal PBs I would keep the powder (777 anyway) at 100grs or less. I killed a deer using 115 grs and the bullet really came apart, no exit at 40 yds. Maybe the new ones will stay together better. My Omega shot about 1 1/2 inch groups with that load.

DocHunter

I have owned two T/C 209x50 (which may use the same barrel as the Omega). Both were extremely finicky about the loads they would shoot well. With my first, I was so frustrated that I was about to wrap the barrel around a tree because it would not shoot ANY load in the T/C manual that would consistently even hit a 4' x 4' target holder at 100 yards after grouping reasonably well at 50 yards. Fortunately, I was directed to Precision Rifle Muzzleloading Bullets (http://www.prbullet.com/). Their staff advised two bullets to try. Without changing anything except using their bullets, I was grouping 2" at 100 yards. The bullets they advised were a 300 gr. conical with a polycarbonate tip and a 330 gr. hollow-point, both with sabots. I use both with charges of 100 to 150 gr. of Pyrodex with great results. I have taken several deer with the 300 gr. bulletand one bull elk with the 330 gr. bullet. I promptly bought a few hundred bullets in both weights after seeing how well they shot.
It can be very frustrating to find the specific bullet and charge that any muzzleloader likes, but it seems that a "pet" load can be found for almost any muzzleloader. In spite of the frustration I had in working up a load for the Encore, T/C has been outstanding in regard to advise and service. Their guns have lifetime warranties and there has been no charge for any service I have requested from them on 3 different guns.

fillae

Saboted bullets are not a problem, but unfortunately in CO we can only use full bore conicals.

DocHunter

Precision Bullets also provide conicals, which I am confident would be equal in quality and results. Give them a call. I have found them very willing to discuss problems.

Doegirl75

Txhunter 58: I know you want to get that Omega to shoot conicals, but it seems like you're trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip. What about getting a sidelock with a 1in48" twist designed to shoot conicals? I know that buying another firearm wasn't exactly in your plans. I just think it might save you a ton of time and extra headaches.

cayugad

If I were going to get a conical shooter in a traditional style rifle I would look at the Lyman Great Plains Hunter with the 1-32 twist. If I wanted an inline rifle that shot conicals, I would look at a White Rifle in .504 or if legal where you hunt, .451 caliber.

HEAD0001

Why are these Omega's so finicky? Why is it so hard to get a second and third(I can not get a third in mine) shot loaded? I use an RCBS adjustable 50 caliber mold. I use pure lead(no tin). Bullet weight is 500 grains. I know you guys are probably laughing at this load. I shoot it in front of 120 grains of 3F black powder. It hurts to shoot this load, I am sure it is too much. This load shoots well in a dozen different ML's. 2-3 inch groups at 100 yds. I get the lead from church windows(so we call it holy lead). I can hear you guys laughing at me(I have been shooting BP for 37 years). All I can say is that I have shot 2 elk, both were pass through, 1 was quartering. Both acted truly sick when hit, neither went 50 yds. Have killed countless deer here in WV, taken many right off their feet, Tom.