does this sound normal?
#1
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 25
does this sound normal?
I shot my TC Blackdiamond last night and tried 90 grs APP 2f could not get a group better than 4inch. Then I switched to 90grs. 777 2f and all 3 shots were almost touching but 10 inches high of where the APP group was. Does this make any sense to anybody. I was shooting from 50yds, off a bench with I scoped gun.
#2
RE: does this sound normal?
ORIGINAL: Dakotabowhunter
I shot my TC Blackdiamond last night and tried 90 grs APP 2f could not get a group better than 4inch. Then I switched to 90grs. 777 2f and all 3 shots were almost touching but 10 inches high of where the APP group was. Does this make any sense to anybody. I was shooting from 50yds, off a bench with I scoped gun.
I shot my TC Blackdiamond last night and tried 90 grs APP 2f could not get a group better than 4inch. Then I switched to 90grs. 777 2f and all 3 shots were almost touching but 10 inches high of where the APP group was. Does this make any sense to anybody. I was shooting from 50yds, off a bench with I scoped gun.
90 grains of Triple Se7en 2f would be more like shooting 105 grains of the APP for power wise. Also when shooting APP & Pinnacle, as long as the projectiles were light, the accuracy was good. If I got them over 300 grains, there was no telling how big the group would get.
In my Black Diamond XR I like 100-110 grains of loose Triple Se7en and a 200 or 250 grain Shockwave. Excellent accuracy. I also get exceptional accuracy with 100 grains of Goex 2f and a 375 grain Buffalo Bullet SSB. There are a lot of other things the BD shoots well. But your experiences with the two powders really does not surprise me at all..
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,922
RE: does this sound normal?
Every ML is different -- so is every powder manufacturer.
To this day, my Omega feels APP FFF is the cats meow. But I never bought anymore after testing it. Even the FFF is too coarse for my sidelocks & won't pour evenly into my powder measure. The heavier the bullet -- the more shot groups spread.
Adequate/serviceablepowder if you are shooting under 300 grains - want an ultra-clean bore when shooting -use a weigh measuring system instead of a volume measurer - are recoil-sensitive - live in a moderately low humidity sector - use only inlines - not interested in high energy.
To this day, my Omega feels APP FFF is the cats meow. But I never bought anymore after testing it. Even the FFF is too coarse for my sidelocks & won't pour evenly into my powder measure. The heavier the bullet -- the more shot groups spread.
Adequate/serviceablepowder if you are shooting under 300 grains - want an ultra-clean bore when shooting -use a weigh measuring system instead of a volume measurer - are recoil-sensitive - live in a moderately low humidity sector - use only inlines - not interested in high energy.
#4
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585
RE: does this sound normal?
cayugad,we have so very similar results on somethings and so very differant on others. I really wish you lived within traveling range I have a feeling that if we had a chance we would learn things together that elude us individually. At the moment I would like to put my finger on what causes some of us to have such an unbelieveable differance in results when using certain powders. I have 14 muzzleloaders at the moment and for the most part results tend to be at least similar,particularly with 777 and APP are we overlooking something weor do, that makes them work or not work?
I find APP the most forgiving powder I have ever shot and 777necessitates a full scrub for a second shot. Is it possable that something we use reacts chemically with certain powders to make them better or worse? Lee
I find APP the most forgiving powder I have ever shot and 777necessitates a full scrub for a second shot. Is it possable that something we use reacts chemically with certain powders to make them better or worse? Lee
#5
RE: does this sound normal?
ORIGINAL: Dakotabowhunter
I shot my TC Blackdiamond last night and tried 90 grs APP 2f could not get a group better than 4inch. Then I switched to 90grs. 777 2f and all 3 shots were almost touching but 10 inches high of where the APP group was. Does this make any sense to anybody. I was shooting from 50yds, off a bench with I scoped gun.
I shot my TC Blackdiamond last night and tried 90 grs APP 2f could not get a group better than 4inch. Then I switched to 90grs. 777 2f and all 3 shots were almost touching but 10 inches high of where the APP group was. Does this make any sense to anybody. I was shooting from 50yds, off a bench with I scoped gun.
#6
RE: does this sound normal?
ORIGINAL: lemoyne
cayugad,we have so very similar results on somethings and so very differant on others. I really wish you lived within traveling range I have a feeling that if we had a chance we would learn things together that elude us individually. Lee
cayugad,we have so very similar results on somethings and so very differant on others. I really wish you lived within traveling range I have a feeling that if we had a chance we would learn things together that elude us individually. Lee