New Sabots
03-11-2006, 03:50 PM
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Fork Horn
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New Sabots
T/C mailed me 15 new sabots to try with 250 gr. Shock Waves in my Omega. These sabots have petals that mic out at .022-.023 and have numbers in the base cup ranging from 2-21 and the petals are about .125 longer than the original sabots. The original sabots have petals that mic out at .025-.026 and theres no number molded into the base cup. Both base cups are stepped. Can anyone I.D. them ? I won't get a chance to try them for a few days.
03-11-2006, 04:10 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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03-11-2006, 04:45 PM
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RE: New Sabots
Sounds like MMP's to me too,I have not heard of
T/C making any new sabots. But with thebores
of some Omega's being so tight, they may have
come up with something to counter the Harvester
crushribs. Keep us posted on the results when
you get some range time.
Danny
T/C making any new sabots. But with thebores
of some Omega's being so tight, they may have
come up with something to counter the Harvester
crushribs. Keep us posted on the results when
you get some range time.
Danny
03-11-2006, 05:42 PM
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RE: New Sabots
bsteve
I believe you have the correct sabots now... MMP HPH-24's most likely.
How many petals on the sabot I am assuming 4?....
Check the base - they should have a stepped base...
TC could??? still be getting some from Harvester, but I do not think they are at this time..
I believe you have the correct sabots now... MMP HPH-24's most likely.
How many petals on the sabot I am assuming 4?....
Check the base - they should have a stepped base...
TC could??? still be getting some from Harvester, but I do not think they are at this time..
03-11-2006, 05:50 PM
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RE: New Sabots
They sound like HPH 24's but HPH 24's are supposed to be the ones sold with shockwaves. I know there was an issue with sabots at one time. Maybe you have older sabots?
Another thought, how many petals are there on the new sabots?
Another thought, how many petals are there on the new sabots?
03-11-2006, 07:12 PM
#6
Fork Horn
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RE: New Sabots
Both the new and old sabots have 4 petals and stepped bases.I bought the Shock Waves in Dec. 04, but didn't use them until last fall. The bullet fits in the new sabots better, the old sabots seemed to be under sized-the bullet wouldn't seat completely in the sabot.
03-11-2006, 07:22 PM
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RE: New Sabots
bsteve
From your descriptions I would tell you they are both MMP sabots... I am also inclined to believe the new sabots that you recieved are of the HPH-24 variety and the older ones were of the HPH-12 variety.
The 24's are for tighter barrels:
This is off the MMP site...
There was a problem with the sabots supplied with the SW's for awhile and now it really escapes me what is was, besides being a bear to load.
From your descriptions I would tell you they are both MMP sabots... I am also inclined to believe the new sabots that you recieved are of the HPH-24 variety and the older ones were of the HPH-12 variety.
The 24's are for tighter barrels:
The big difference between Black HPH12 and HPH24 is HPH24 is .002" smaller
in loaded diameter. Loaded diameter is a sabot with a bullet inserted.
With a .452 diameter bullet the HPH12 is .507-.508" diameter, the HPH24 is .505"-.506" diameter.
If you have a tight loading rifle you may want to choose the HPH24.
in loaded diameter. Loaded diameter is a sabot with a bullet inserted.
With a .452 diameter bullet the HPH12 is .507-.508" diameter, the HPH24 is .505"-.506" diameter.
If you have a tight loading rifle you may want to choose the HPH24.
There was a problem with the sabots supplied with the SW's for awhile and now it really escapes me what is was, besides being a bear to load.
03-11-2006, 07:49 PM
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RE: New Sabots
bsteve
Wolfhound76 is correct, if you want to continue shooting the 250 SW or actually any .451/.452 bullet try the 24 - if it loads ok - should not be hard to get down - you probably can push it down with your thumbs - then the 24 is what you need, but if it is difficult. wait to stock up on anything else. There may be another answer around the corner...this spring.
My newest purchase was a new Omega and I was terribly concerned about getting sabot bullet combinations down it - butthe 24's work great in it. I even shoot .458(45-70's) with an MMP .458 Orange sabot from it.
Wolfhound76 is correct, if you want to continue shooting the 250 SW or actually any .451/.452 bullet try the 24 - if it loads ok - should not be hard to get down - you probably can push it down with your thumbs - then the 24 is what you need, but if it is difficult. wait to stock up on anything else. There may be another answer around the corner...this spring.
My newest purchase was a new Omega and I was terribly concerned about getting sabot bullet combinations down it - butthe 24's work great in it. I even shoot .458(45-70's) with an MMP .458 Orange sabot from it.