Jim Shockey Gold: Pretty speedy stuff
#21
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mesa, Arizona
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RE: Jim Shockey Gold: Pretty speedy stuff
Roskoe: What rifle are you using? I did similar comparison of Black Mag'3 with 777 and found higher velocity with the BM3 although it was with a stainless Omega. I suspect that you may also have a longer barrel rifle. Most of the Ascorbic acid based powders seem to do better in longer barrels. I had some report less velocity with shorter barrels when compared with 777. The softer recoil of the ascorbic acid powders is another result of the slower pressure rise rates compared with 777.
#23
Join Date: Nov 2005
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RE: Jim Shockey Gold: Pretty speedy stuff
I shot last weekend using the APP powder. I
don't know the difference in straight APP & the
Shockeys Gold. I was using an old antique
chrony so I'm not sure if it was reading correctly.
But as I stated in another post I believe the APP
is a little hotter than pyro or 777. Keep us
posted. Danny
don't know the difference in straight APP & the
Shockeys Gold. I was using an old antique
chrony so I'm not sure if it was reading correctly.
But as I stated in another post I believe the APP
is a little hotter than pyro or 777. Keep us
posted. Danny
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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RE: Jim Shockey Gold: Pretty speedy stuff
I found this post interesting and tried to buy some Shokey's today. The owner of the gun shop said it's the same stuff as the American Pioneer only with a different container (he only had the sticks in stock). Does anyone know if that is true or do I have to check on everything this guy tells me now?
#26
RE: Jim Shockey Gold: Pretty speedy stuff
ORIGINAL: VT Ridges
I found this post interesting and tried to buy some Shockey's today. The owner of the gun shop said it's the same stuff as the American Pioneer only with a different container (he only had the sticks in stock). Does anyone know if that is true or do I have to check on everything this guy tells me now?
I found this post interesting and tried to buy some Shockey's today. The owner of the gun shop said it's the same stuff as the American Pioneer only with a different container (he only had the sticks in stock). Does anyone know if that is true or do I have to check on everything this guy tells me now?
#27
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
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RE: Jim Shockey Gold: Pretty speedy stuff
cayugad, you nailed it I did a bit of checking on that my self, different screens with a narrower gap between max and minimum and a different colored die. But as with 2Fand 3F black it does cause some differances. In my rifles it gives a bit more velocity but is toucher [need to weigh the loads] while APP shoots good groups for me by vol. Lee
#28
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 161
RE: Jim Shockey Gold: Pretty speedy stuff
You guys are right, JSG says in their info. that it gives apprx. 50fps faster. Good stuff I like it.
Roskoe thanks for the update on the speeds, I've been looking forward toyour results.
Thanks,
Roskoe thanks for the update on the speeds, I've been looking forward toyour results.
Thanks,
#29
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Mt. Marion, NY
Posts: 22
RE: Jim Shockey Gold: Pretty speedy stuff
I am shooting an Encore and interested in trying either the regular APP
or the Shockey Gold. Have been reading alot about the granular sizes
and am not sure rather to buy the 2F or 3F? Any ideas while we are
discussing these two products?
or the Shockey Gold. Have been reading alot about the granular sizes
and am not sure rather to buy the 2F or 3F? Any ideas while we are
discussing these two products?
#30
RE: Jim Shockey Gold: Pretty speedy stuff
personally Dondo if you're talking LOOSE American Pioneer Powder, go with the 3f grade. The 2f grade is much too coarse in texture for my liking. Some of it will hardly pour though the funnel of your measure. Also the finer grade should actually burn a little faster and cleaner if it behaves like the other powders. You probably will not notice the difference. I always get the 3f. Your Encore should handle it just fine. After all that's the rifle Jim Shockey is using with his Shockey Gold. Someone told me he uses the 3f grade powder too, butI forget who now.
Keep us posted with your results...
Keep us posted with your results...