58. Caliber
12-14-2005, 04:21 PM
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RE: 58. Caliber
Additionally, there's a BIG differencein recoil! Given an 8.5 pound rifle, a .54 with a 230-grain ball and 115 grains of powder gives 32 Foot/Pounds of recoil at 1700 FPS MV. A .58 of the same weight firing a 270-grain ball at the same MV, using 140 grains of powder, has 48 Ft/Lb of recoil-an increase of 50% over the .54!!
50% increase in recoil? 32x2=64.
12-17-2005, 04:07 PM
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RE: 58. Caliber
Out of a 1-70" twist 58 caliber is it possible to get it shooting ball-ets with a little work?
Also, I have been looking at GM barrels. Anyone know of any other good barrels that would fit a Renegade? How about with a twist a tad bit faster than 1-70". 1-60" or a 1-48" would be better I think. Then you have bigger variety of bullets.
Also, I have been looking at GM barrels. Anyone know of any other good barrels that would fit a Renegade? How about with a twist a tad bit faster than 1-70". 1-60" or a 1-48" would be better I think. Then you have bigger variety of bullets.
12-17-2005, 10:50 PM
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RE: 58. Caliber
Some guys on another forum say the 58 with a 1-78" twist and a round ball is fantastic. They really really really love the caliber. They said the recoil isn't too bad and it will take down anything in North America. They said it can drop Elk and deer in their tracks.
12-17-2005, 11:20 PM
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RE: 58. Caliber
The .58 caliber Green Mountain Barrel with a 1-70 twist is all the rifle you would need to hunt anything in North America. Shooting a 284 grain .58 caliber roundball is a monster chunk of lead when you consider many people are shooting a 240 or 250 grain .45 caliber projectile in their sabots. Roundballs are deadly. They have been killing critters for many years and will continue to do so for many more.
12-18-2005, 08:38 AM
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RE: 58. Caliber
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Wouldnt 140gr of powder be a little too much?
50% increase in recoil? 32x2=64.
Additionally, there's a BIG differencein recoil! Given an 8.5 pound rifle, a .54 with a 230-grain ball and 115 grains of powder gives 32 Foot/Pounds of recoil at 1700 FPS MV. A .58 of the same weight firing a 270-grain ball at the same MV, using 140 grains of powder, has 48 Ft/Lb of recoil-an increase of 50% over the .54!!
50% increase in recoil? 32x2=64.
Twice 32 is indeed 64, but that is doubling it-in other words, a 100% increase from 32,not a 50% increase.......
IS there such a thing as a .58 cal. ball-ette? I believe any bullet that is no longer than 1.5 X the bore diametrer will shoot OK from a slow twist. After all, the U.S. Springfield rifle-musket of .58 caliber has a 1/72" twist, and it shoots 530-grain conical hollow based bullets quite well (Minie Balls!).
12-18-2005, 09:13 AM
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RE: 58. Caliber
IS there such a thing as a .58 cal. ball-ette?
