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Old 09-03-2005, 11:08 PM
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Found a bit more on Moore - edited previous post. Across the flats, just measure from flat side to flat side in what would be a straight line across the barrel. Looks like you could measure from one side of the barrel to the other just above where it sits in the stock.
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Old 09-04-2005, 08:10 AM
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Old 09-04-2005, 08:23 AM
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Great find! This gunmaker appears to have been rather shortlived and didn't create many weapons with his name on them. I'm not going to fire this weapon, nor do I plan on selling it, but it would be nice to know exactly what it is and what it is worth. Thank you!
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Old 09-04-2005, 11:05 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean by measuring across the flats. How is that done? I will weight it as soon as I can, however. Thanks!
Octagon barrels have flat sides. which are referred to as "the flats" In other words, how thick is the barrel from one flat to the opposite one?

This is obviously a percussion target rifle, either a Schutzen for offhand shooting, or perhaps a benchrest gun. I conclude this from the fact that it has a hammer & nipple arrangement for the back-action lock, double-set triggers, an aperture rear sight and what appears to be a target sight on the front, as well as having a false muzzle.

It DOES NOT have Whitworth rifling-Whitworth rifling does not have grooves between the hex surfaces! This is probably a slug shooter rather than a round-ball rifle, due to having a false muzzle. Measure the twist. I would date CA1845 to perhaps 1860.
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Old 09-04-2005, 01:22 PM
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I did notice in my photos the octagonal pattern appears to only be in the false muzzle and not the barrel itself. I'm a student and don't have much time to take it to gun shops to get an idea of what exactly it is, but I would subscribe to your theory much more than it being a sniper rifle. Heck, the only reason I used that was because to the untrained eye it resembles one. Thanks again!
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Old 09-04-2005, 01:29 PM
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IF the bore and breech plug are in good shape, it should be shootable. It is a treasure either way!
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Old 09-04-2005, 04:29 PM
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Yep, good eye El. The false muzzle threw me with that octagonal boring. Does appear the main barrel has a normal hole and standard rifling. My bad.

But he's closer'n he was to learnin' sumpin about that gun.
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Old 09-04-2005, 05:08 PM
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I did notice in my photos the octagonal pattern appears to only be in the false muzzle and not the barrel itself. I'm a student and don't have much time to take it to gun shops to get an idea of what exactly it is, but I would subscribe to your theory much more than it being a sniper rifle. Heck, the only reason I used that was because to the untrained eye it resembles one. Thanks again!
(Actually, the Whitworth rifling is a hexagon shape (6 sides) not eight as it would be if octagonal......)
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Old 09-04-2005, 11:08 PM
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and that false muzzle is hexa instead of octa. Surest way to get someone to chime in is to post some misinformation. Thanks for helping the man out.
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Old 09-05-2005, 08:31 AM
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Absolutely - I meant hexagonal not octagonal. Good catch. I plan on scouring antique rifle books today to see if I can find more information. If/when I do, I'll be sure to post the results. Who knows, maybe somebody else is searching for information on it!
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