Winchester WML209 Primers
08-27-2005, 07:04 PM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Winchester WML209 Primers
Just to be fair to the Winchester people, I tried these primers in a CVA Staghorn Magnum today. Since the CVA breech is a solid one piece design I figured that this would be a good test for them.
Twice I have the centers blow out of the primer and then not seeing that ended up with a misfire on the next shot. After checking and finding that small piece in the breech striker area and removing it, the rifle fired fine. Also I noticed that the center part of the primer would blow backward and hang out the rim of the primer, sometimes coming out, sometimes not. So over all I am guessing that the old 209 Nipple in my Black Diamond might have been partially to blame for some of the problems on the other encounter, although these are not low power.
I only shot 25 times and the rifle and RED DOT were covering in fowling.... Such is the life of a muzzleloader.
Twice I have the centers blow out of the primer and then not seeing that ended up with a misfire on the next shot. After checking and finding that small piece in the breech striker area and removing it, the rifle fired fine. Also I noticed that the center part of the primer would blow backward and hang out the rim of the primer, sometimes coming out, sometimes not. So over all I am guessing that the old 209 Nipple in my Black Diamond might have been partially to blame for some of the problems on the other encounter, although these are not low power.
I only shot 25 times and the rifle and RED DOT were covering in fowling.... Such is the life of a muzzleloader.
09-19-2005, 06:50 PM
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RE: Winchester WML209 Primers
ORIGINAL: cayugad
Twice I have the centers blow out of the primer and then not seeing that ended up with a misfire on the next shot. After checking and finding that small piece in the breech striker area and removing it, the rifle fired fine. Also I noticed that the center part of the primer would blow backward and hang out the rim of the primer, sometimes coming out, sometimes not. So over all I am guessing that the old 209 Nipple in my Black Diamond might have been partially to blame for some of the problems on the other encounter,
Twice I have the centers blow out of the primer and then not seeing that ended up with a misfire on the next shot. After checking and finding that small piece in the breech striker area and removing it, the rifle fired fine. Also I noticed that the center part of the primer would blow backward and hang out the rim of the primer, sometimes coming out, sometimes not. So over all I am guessing that the old 209 Nipple in my Black Diamond might have been partially to blame for some of the problems on the other encounter,
09-19-2005, 07:50 PM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Winchester WML209 Primers
ORIGINAL: RAKTRAKR
Your findings are correct! And I also dont think your Black Diamond nipplewas to blame. I was out shooting my BD for the first timeand had the same thing happen. I will not shoot these primers again! I went through 1 1/2 packs of the old Win. primers and never had this happen
ORIGINAL: cayugad
Twice I have the centers blow out of the primer and then not seeing that ended up with a misfire on the next shot. After checking and finding that small piece in the breech striker area and removing it, the rifle fired fine. Also I noticed that the center part of the primer would blow backward and hang out the rim of the primer, sometimes coming out, sometimes not. So over all I am guessing that the old 209 Nipple in my Black Diamond might have been partially to blame for some of the problems on the other encounter,
Twice I have the centers blow out of the primer and then not seeing that ended up with a misfire on the next shot. After checking and finding that small piece in the breech striker area and removing it, the rifle fired fine. Also I noticed that the center part of the primer would blow backward and hang out the rim of the primer, sometimes coming out, sometimes not. So over all I am guessing that the old 209 Nipple in my Black Diamond might have been partially to blame for some of the problems on the other encounter,
09-21-2005, 09:07 AM
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RE: Winchester WML209 Primers
The other day I shot some of the Kleenbore primers made for Muzzleloaders by Remington. I have to admit, they worked fine. They did not blow the discs in my Knight apart, and the accuracy of the rifle was normal. I want to get them out and try them in a few more rifles before I really claim they are worth the money...
09-22-2005, 12:20 PM
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RE: Winchester WML209 Primers
cayugad,
Just sharing some information, I have been using Rem 209-4's for several years and have found them to be totally reliable. Haven't experianced the blowing-up that you indicated with the Winchesters. Have not experianced the nipple problems in either the A&H or either one of the Remington 700's - using the Canadian (Cabela's) conversion. Think you will like the Rems... Good Luck
Just sharing some information, I have been using Rem 209-4's for several years and have found them to be totally reliable. Haven't experianced the blowing-up that you indicated with the Winchesters. Have not experianced the nipple problems in either the A&H or either one of the Remington 700's - using the Canadian (Cabela's) conversion. Think you will like the Rems... Good Luck
09-22-2005, 12:36 PM
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RE: Winchester WML209 Primers
They sure behaved a lot better then the Winchester I bought. I think the discs that I used the Kleenbore in will be able to be reused, which is a real bonus... I only shot off about 35 of them so I have a little more to play with.