DeerSlayer53

I have an Inline Stainless Steal OriginalKnight .50 Caliber Muzzleloader with a Leupold 3-9 40mm (3x9x40)scope.SayI shoot 110 grains of Pyrodex pellets andmight getsome200 grain T/C Shockwaves for hunting season.
Is this a good setup foraccurately shooting 100-200 yards away? Is there a better setup forshooting that far?

Thanks

ijimmy

A centerfire would apply , and not a 30/30 .

skinnerdawg

how long have you had this gun? how often do you go to the range? the reason i ask this is that the only way you will know how this gun will perform at that type of distance is to practice....practice....practice. im not trying to poke fun at you or start an argument but seeing results on paper is always the best way to go just my humble opinion

Roskoe

Personally, the best long range load I have used is the 250 grain T/C Shockwave ahead of 130 grains of Pyrodex Pellets. Using three 50 grain pellets is a little faster - and may work in your gun - but I got better accuracy with 130 grains (two fifties and a thirty). Sight in 3" high at 100 yards and you should be only about 6" low at 200 yards. Good luck. Roscoe.

Paul L Mohr

For long range accuracy I would suggest a Precision Rifle bullet in a heavier longer bullet, like a 340-350 grn. They will stabilize better at longer ranges.

The only way to really know is to try it. You can't base it on how accurate it is at 50 or 100 yards. If you want to know how it shoots at a longer yardarge will have to shoot it and find out. My Remington with 300 grn XTP's would shoot 1 inch or better groups at 100 yards off a bench. However at 150 yards they were horrible giving me like 4 or 5 inch groups, if that. Had the same problem with my new slug gun and light fields. They shot great at 50 yards but sucked at 100 yards.

If you are going to shoot a muzzle loader or slug gun beyond 100 yards you better check it at those ranges to make sure how accurately it shoots and the amount of bullet drop you get. You should really do that with any weapon honestly.

Paul

cayugad

Just because it is an older model Knight rifle with excellent optics, I would suggest that you are in the ball park with the 110 grains of powder. I am not sure what the older Knights were rated at when they first came out. What is the barrel length on your rifle? If it is 22" then there is no reason to go any further then the 110 grains of powder because you would probably blow it out the barrel.

Also Knights like a tight fitting projectile. For that reason I would look at some Barnes Expanders in 250 grain or some of the Knight RED HOT sabot loads. Since you want to shoot 200 yards, you might need to try a number of different projectiles. Shoot them first at 100 yards and get a real tight group. Then get some big cardboard and see just how far they really drop at 200 yards. it might surprise you.

We were shooting 250 grain Shockwaves at 150 yards and it seemed like we were aiming almost eight inches over the white paper plate. You really need to get out to a range and work some loads in order to know what will work the best... Good luck.. 200 yards is a long way for any rifle actually.

Pittsburghunter

Yes 200yds is a long range for most rifle shooters as well I will add. I would worry a bit about down range energy with the 200g bullets unless I have them smoking out of the muzzle.

There are some good ballistic charts out there that can give you real good info on retained energy at long distance. In my Encore manual for example it shows that a 240gXTP fired with 3 50g pellets will have 1210f/p of energy at 200yds compared to a 300g XTP that will have 1420f/p of energy at the same range.

But as they say ballistics are always grey for some reason the 275g XTP has less retained energy at 200yds than the bullet lighter or heavier than it. It come in at 1185f/p?

So the 200g bullet you are testing will probabally shoot flat enough, find out if it retains the killing power you demand out of expensive bullets.

Doohan

DeerSlayer,

You have some good advise in the above posts! I have shot alot at 200 yds withMANY of different muzzleloaders and I would suggest if you are going to attempt such a shot, PRACTICE until you are comfortable with such a shot! No one off target groups then off to the field!

You will need to do the following to be in the ballpark:

1- Chronograph your load - You will need about 2000 fps with a 200 sst to have enough energy at 200 yds.. This would give you about 700ft/lbs or so left.. If you cant get the velocity accurately, scrap the project....

2- Hunt with a rangefinder..

3- Zero the bottom of your duplex at 200 yards! This should equal about 3" high dead on at 100 yds

4- Practice practice practice! I would say shoot 30-40 rds at that range MINIMUM and as close to hunting season as possible.

5- Lung shot - forget the shoulders!

If your gun can handle 3-50gr pellets, I would suggest that load. I have shot 3 pellets and a 200 shockwave from my disc elite and it is avery accurate.

Good luck and keep us posted!