Hunting aint hunting anymore
#31
RE: Hunting aint hunting anymore
If I had the money the type of hunt I would go on wouldn't be sitting in a house looking out the window down a cut path. No jealousy just not my type of hunting.
That's sad. Growing trophy's just doesn't sound right.
Like it or not, trophies (too most of those that grow them) are simply comoditees that are to be bought and sold too the highest bidder. Thats the nature of the beast now adays!
#32
RE: Hunting aint hunting anymore
Just don't get pissy and call others names because they had the abilities to get something much larger than what you can realistically hope to take on "typically average" hunting range.
#33
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Beautiful Western Montana
Posts: 2,308
RE: Hunting aint hunting anymore
Just don't get pissy and call others names because they had the abilities to get something much larger than what you can realistically hope to take on "typically average" hunting range.
#34
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Rocky Mountains, Colorado
Posts: 1,964
RE: Hunting aint hunting anymore
Red,
Generally, I enjoy reading your stuff, it usually has an interesting take on things. But, dang Red, you sure did get folk’s dander up a bit! I thought you had a good point or two along the way too, though I didn’t see one person give you credit for any of them while taking you to task on some of the other counts. I imagine they were busy tearing you up like “a wolf pack in a sheep pen” because some of the parts you said may have hit a little too close to home for comfort for some folks in some instances.
The only thing that hunters agree on a full 100%, is to disagree.
If you decide to stay on this site, then you’ve got to remember there are a few unwritten rules and one of them is you can’t allude directly or indirectly to some one’s “financial ability to play ball” or make any references to different “classes or levels” of hunting. The issue might be real enough and might be relevant enough and might be true enough, but, ah, er, uh, "we just don’t talk about those things here.” If you decide to stay, then I’d encourage you to be real cautious when broaching or even skirting the issues of money and/or the pursuit of outstanding or diverse or foreign or exotic hunts.
Drop me an email if you want to "kick around" some of the issues and alternatives a bit.
Good Luck and Good Hunting,
And as always,
Never Go Undergunned,
Always Check The Sight In,
Perform At Showtime,
EKM
Generally, I enjoy reading your stuff, it usually has an interesting take on things. But, dang Red, you sure did get folk’s dander up a bit! I thought you had a good point or two along the way too, though I didn’t see one person give you credit for any of them while taking you to task on some of the other counts. I imagine they were busy tearing you up like “a wolf pack in a sheep pen” because some of the parts you said may have hit a little too close to home for comfort for some folks in some instances.
The only thing that hunters agree on a full 100%, is to disagree.
If you decide to stay on this site, then you’ve got to remember there are a few unwritten rules and one of them is you can’t allude directly or indirectly to some one’s “financial ability to play ball” or make any references to different “classes or levels” of hunting. The issue might be real enough and might be relevant enough and might be true enough, but, ah, er, uh, "we just don’t talk about those things here.” If you decide to stay, then I’d encourage you to be real cautious when broaching or even skirting the issues of money and/or the pursuit of outstanding or diverse or foreign or exotic hunts.
Drop me an email if you want to "kick around" some of the issues and alternatives a bit.
Good Luck and Good Hunting,
And as always,
Never Go Undergunned,
Always Check The Sight In,
Perform At Showtime,
EKM
#35
RE: Hunting aint hunting anymore
I can see both sides of this very well. Having been a hunting quide and dealing with customers why paid for our service was part of my job. Many of them simply didn't have the time and place to scout for the season. They still wanted to hunt and drive out on opening day and get thier animal. To them that was hunting and they could afford it. This was not game farm hunting though and much of it was on public land. Any trophys taken there were earned the hard way. Hunting managed herds behind high fences is another thing altogether, There is nothing in the world wrong with this type of hunting for those who can fork out the money and consider it real hunting. Its a way for landowners to make a living. Being a land owner I can understand that big time. My only point here is that these animals shoul have a record book system of their own that specifies that they are game farm animals. This type of hunting takes place all over the world and it here to stay. I have taken some big animals but never had them measured or scored because that is not my thing. But its important to some and for them they should have their trophys rated for what they are. Troghys taken from free ranging animals. I can't see where this would step on any toes. I don't know how it works currently because I was never interested in the system. I have hunted a ton on private land. Never a fenced in herd though. But to each his own. To me its just shooting rather than hunting but hey shooting is fun too.
#36
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: WV
Posts: 4,484
RE: Hunting aint hunting anymore
I agree. To me, most of the issue I saw was the difference between shooting and hunting--and JamesB was right that shooting can be fun--but it's not the same. I don't believe financial aspects were, IMHO, relevant.
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#37
RE: Hunting aint hunting anymore
Hunting aint hunting anymore? To who? My hunting hasn't changed a bit. Hunting should be a personal thing and what, how and when others do it isn't going to change it for me. Hunting is an experiance to me not the kill. If people want to emphasize more on the kill and the size of the animal their the ones that I feel are missing out and don't effect me in the least.
#38
RE: Hunting aint hunting anymore
REDALLISON
I tell you what every deer or elk I killed has been on public land or land that any man could hunt with NO $ changing hands.I would be willing to bet if you post your pis what you have killed with you MONEY would not compare to what some of us have killed with sweat and time.
Fill free to post your pics :}
I have sevral like this to compare to.
I tell you what every deer or elk I killed has been on public land or land that any man could hunt with NO $ changing hands.I would be willing to bet if you post your pis what you have killed with you MONEY would not compare to what some of us have killed with sweat and time.
Fill free to post your pics :}
I have sevral like this to compare to.
#39
RE: Hunting aint hunting anymore
Something like $7,000-$8,000 to become a real hunter...
It makes me sick.
The whole world has gone to who ever has the most money.
Thers no more hunting in your back yard any more.
All the land is gone for shopping centers and malls,
And apartments.