Nosler Partition versus CT Fail Safe (for elk)
11-30-2003, 02:11 PM
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Nosler Partition versus CT Fail Safe (for elk)
Which bullet will get the most penetration on elk? Also which one is better for hard quartering away shots (such as Elmer Keith used to write about).
Any first hand knowledge or opinions is appreciated.
The caliber I am useing is the 7mm STW.
Thanks, NBH
Any first hand knowledge or opinions is appreciated.
The caliber I am useing is the 7mm STW.
Thanks, NBH
11-30-2003, 04:43 PM
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RE: Nosler Partition versus CT Fail Safe (for elk)
First of all,what do you mean by CT failsafe?? The only failsafe I' ve heard of is the Win. Failsafe, I' ve used these and would put them in the top 10% as far as performance goes. As for the Nosler, it' s reputation speaks for itself.You can' t go wrong with either, just find out which gives you the better grouping.
11-30-2003, 05:00 PM
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RE: Nosler Partition versus CT Fail Safe (for elk)
Plainsman,
The CT means Combined Technologys. It is a Nosler/Winchester combined company. It is probably the same bullet you mentioned. I think the CT failsafe is molly coated though.
I know the reputation of the Partition, I have used them on lesser animals. I haven' t used the failsafes yet.
The CT means Combined Technologys. It is a Nosler/Winchester combined company. It is probably the same bullet you mentioned. I think the CT failsafe is molly coated though.
I know the reputation of the Partition, I have used them on lesser animals. I haven' t used the failsafes yet.
11-30-2003, 07:42 PM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: Nosler Partition versus CT Fail Safe (for elk)
The failsafe will have better penetration than the nosler and it will retain more weight than the nosler too. Go to the reloading page and look at the thread titled " the best hunting bullet" it' s everything that you need to know.
12-01-2003, 05:16 AM
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RE: Nosler Partition versus CT Fail Safe (for elk)
The fail safe and the Partition Gold Both made by nosler are a couple of the toughest bullets going. In the same class is the Swift A frame and a few other Bonded bullets. The Heavy for caliber Partitions will sure do the job on elk as will the Remington Ultra corlokt.
12-01-2003, 06:12 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Nosler Partition versus CT Fail Safe (for elk)
If you use partitions or failsafes you don' t need to use heavy for caliber bullets.I have used the 140gr partitions and a friend uses the 140gr failsafes and both penetrate as well or better than many heavier bullets.
12-03-2003, 07:17 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Nosler Partition versus CT Fail Safe (for elk)
I used the Winchester Supreme cartridge with the 180 gr. "fail safe" slug in last week's Elk hunt in Wyoming.
From using it from the bench beforehand, I found these loads shot constistently 1" groupings at 100+ yds from my Tikka T3 .300 WM.
From the experience using it on an Elk it seemed to stagger the adult cow I shot at 100 yds the first round just behind the shoulder, so she wasn't going anywhere. The second round through the chest put her down quickly.
That's my experience.
From using it from the bench beforehand, I found these loads shot constistently 1" groupings at 100+ yds from my Tikka T3 .300 WM.
From the experience using it on an Elk it seemed to stagger the adult cow I shot at 100 yds the first round just behind the shoulder, so she wasn't going anywhere. The second round through the chest put her down quickly.
That's my experience.