Slugging in Wyoming
12-24-2015, 09:16 AM
#11
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Location: Allegan, MI
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Whether it's a family that does it or an unknown "slug" the concept/result is the same! I don't believe there is much partying other than with family as far as that goes, but if the G&F didn't think it was worthwhile they wouldn't have made it part of the rules when PPs were instituted in 2006. It wasn't nonresidents that asked for or even had anything to do with instituting the system and we all have to live with it. If a NR can do what you stated every year, then that's the system's fault and not the person that is just being smart and taking advantage of the setup. Your Colonel friend may be cheap, but it is getting a car off the highway and is, therefore, saving gas and lessening pollution.
12-25-2015, 06:36 AM
#12
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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Can't speak for WY but in CO if someone puts in as a group they go by whoever has the fewest number of points. So if I had 21 points for elk, which I do, and I applied as a group with someone only having 5 points they entire application would be put into the system as 5 points. If the tag is drawn I would lose all 21 points. This is why I can't apply with anyone else. I spent a lot of time on active duty racking up points when I couldn't hunt and I'm not going to sacrifice them on lesser hunts than I can draw with lots of points.
Not saying CO's system is perfect or in any way superior to that used by other states but it sure as heck prevents "slugging."
Not saying CO's system is perfect or in any way superior to that used by other states but it sure as heck prevents "slugging."
12-25-2015, 08:32 AM
#13
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I'm not sure, but Wyoming may be the only one that uses the exact average of the PPs of the party and they do it out to 4 or 5 decimal points for the draw without going up or down to the nearest whole number.
Last edited by Topgun 3006; 12-25-2015 at 11:53 AM.
12-25-2015, 09:51 AM
#14
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Can't speak for WY but in CO if someone puts in as a group they go by whoever has the fewest number of points. So if I had 21 points for elk, which I do, and I applied as a group with someone only having 5 points they entire application would be put into the system as 5 points. If the tag is drawn I would lose all 21 points. This is why I can't apply with anyone else. I spent a lot of time on active duty racking up points when I couldn't hunt and I'm not going to sacrifice them on lesser hunts than I can draw with lots of points.
Not saying CO's system is perfect or in any way superior to that used by other states but it sure as heck prevents "slugging."
Not saying CO's system is perfect or in any way superior to that used by other states but it sure as heck prevents "slugging."
12-25-2015, 10:15 AM
#15
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Some of these hunts are turning into once in a lifetime due to point creep.
12-25-2015, 11:23 AM
#16
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It looks like 21 points is enough to draw any tag as a resident but not enough to draw as a non-resident. I'm just guessing here but assume the preference points would stay with Flags at the same value as he transitions from a Colorado resident to a non-resident. I've never encountered that particular situation before so am kind of curious.
12-25-2015, 11:43 AM
#18
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I can honestly say I agree with both Flags and Muley. I wouldn't want to give up the opportunity to get a tag of a lifetime as Flags doesn't (he's smart to preserve that opportunity) and yet think the annual opportunity Muley speaks of is both wise and practical. Perhaps Muley's protocol even allows one to build up some points along the way? 
12-25-2015, 11:54 AM
#19
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Location: Colorado
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Not really Cal in my case. Once you get a 1st pick you lose all your points. I need to always take a 1st pick to get the tag, but it doesn't matter if I can get the tag every year with no points. No need to save points.
This is for elk. Deer is another matter. I need a couple of points to get a tag as a 1st pick. Doesn't matter either to be honest. Deer do nothing for me, and taste like sage.
I know why did I take Muley Hunter for a name? I think Elk Hunter was taken when I signed up if I remember right.
This is for elk. Deer is another matter. I need a couple of points to get a tag as a 1st pick. Doesn't matter either to be honest. Deer do nothing for me, and taste like sage.
I know why did I take Muley Hunter for a name? I think Elk Hunter was taken when I signed up if I remember right.
Last edited by Muley Hunter; 12-25-2015 at 11:57 AM.
12-25-2015, 02:21 PM
#20
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Those numbers are for the tags that allow you to take a bull. However I can and usually do draw a cow tag for unit 2 as a second choice. So while I wait for the bull tag I really want I can still hunt elk every season if I choose to. This year I didn't because the schedule as a school teacher makes it hard to get to CO in Sept or Oct. This year I hunted deer in CO in Dec with a second choice tag and a leftover private land tag, both for does. Building points, contrary to believe, doesn't mean you can't still hunt every year in CO.
I'll just keep building points until I decide to pull the tag. I have a large number of points for elk, deer, moose, sheep and bear for CO. My plan is to cash them in one species at a time, using one per year. I can retire for the second time in 4 more years so I'll put the plan into action when that happens.