need help with rifles
#1
need help with rifles
I have a H&R single shot with a 3-9x scope and a 760 gamemaster pump in 35 rem with a 3-9x with see through scope rings.
i'm a good shot with both but I was wondering if a single shot 30-06 would be okay for elk and moose.
or Should i use the 35 pump?
i'm a good shot with both but I was wondering if a single shot 30-06 would be okay for elk and moose.
or Should i use the 35 pump?
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: west central wi USA
Posts: 2,256
Since you can reload both rifles, allbeit one slower than the other, I don't think the pump-single shot thing is an issue. The '06 has more reach and power. If you can shoot it accurately, go with the '06. If you shoot straight the first time, a fast follow-up isn't an issue. I hunted deer with a single shot '06 for 30 yr's and never lost one due to a lack of follow-up speed.
#6
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: WY
Posts: 2,056
How many shots do you think you'll need?
Magazines and their capacities should only be issues for people who can't hit their target with the first shot. I've hunted deer and pronghorns for years with a single-shot Ruger No. 1. Follow-up shots have never been an issue, even with a "puny" .243.
Although I recognize there's a loyal following of the "brush buster" theory regarding calibers, I've used my .30-06 in some pretty thick stuff and if I've ever considered it a liability, it's more because of the barrel length (22") and the FOV of the optic (4-12x) than the caliber itself. I've never been a fan of "see-thru" rings. Just my opinion, but I feel if the brush is that thick it's better to opt for a lower-powered optic (I lean 1.5-5x) with a wider FOV - or straight iron sights - than something that'll let you use your iron sights, but which mounts your optic high enough over the bore that you can't obtain a proper cheek weld.
Lastly - and probably most importantly - which of the two rifles here do you shoot better? Use it.
Magazines and their capacities should only be issues for people who can't hit their target with the first shot. I've hunted deer and pronghorns for years with a single-shot Ruger No. 1. Follow-up shots have never been an issue, even with a "puny" .243.
Although I recognize there's a loyal following of the "brush buster" theory regarding calibers, I've used my .30-06 in some pretty thick stuff and if I've ever considered it a liability, it's more because of the barrel length (22") and the FOV of the optic (4-12x) than the caliber itself. I've never been a fan of "see-thru" rings. Just my opinion, but I feel if the brush is that thick it's better to opt for a lower-powered optic (I lean 1.5-5x) with a wider FOV - or straight iron sights - than something that'll let you use your iron sights, but which mounts your optic high enough over the bore that you can't obtain a proper cheek weld.
Lastly - and probably most importantly - which of the two rifles here do you shoot better? Use it.
#8
Typical Buck
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 797
I think someone new to rifles should stick to standard calibers like 270, 7mm-08, 308 or 30-06. For one they don't have a tremendous recoil and you can afford to shoot them a lot more an get used to the gun while gaining good shooting form. I think most people today would do better shooting more and really getting to know the rifle's fit to the shooter as well as learning the calibers exact drops in trajectory. For elk that's what I would recommend but for deer size game you can go a lot smaller like a 6mm or 243 win.
#10
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: denver co USA
Posts: 18
None of the above
If you really want my honest opinion, I think you need to get another gun. if you are wanting a gun that you will use for elk and moose, then I would say buy a gun that really fits those needs, such as a 300 or 338 mag (bolt action) With that said, if you are on a limited budget and all you have are the 2 options you mentioned, and if that is truely all you have, then I would have to say that you are still in a gray area and I would not honestly not recommend either one for elk and moose. I will not go into the numerous debates I have had which argued about all the various calibers and weapons that can kill and elk or moose (yes even a .22 can kill an elk or moose), but I am a serious believer that you need to go that extra step to find the best fit instead of just trying to make something work. All I want to say is that in my honest opinion your 2 guns may not be the best fit for what you need. Just my $0.02