caliber advice for big game
#1
Spike
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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caliber advice for big game
Currently I have a .243 and .204, but am looking to add probably two more rifles to the collection. One would be a dedicated deer rifle so that I could let my son use the .243 when he's old enough to go with me. I'd like something a little bigger and so I was thinking .25-06 or 7mm-08.
I'd also like something for an elk or moose hunt that I'm saving up for in a couple of years. Frankly, I don't like recoil, and so I'd like to go with either a non-magnum, or one of the smaller magnums, but I definately want something adequate to take anything in N. America with the exception of maybe a grizz. I'm considering .30-06, 7mm mag, .300 WSM, and .300wm. I'm also planning on getting started on reloading soon, and so I thought the combination of a 7mm-08 and 7mm mag would let me use the same bullets for both, or atleast try the same for both.
Because I'm kind of anti-recoil, the thought of a .300wm scares me a bit. Are there any other aspects to this debate that I am overlooking? Does it matter which of those 4 I choose, or would any of them suit me fine? Oh, and it's not that my frame couldn't handle the recoil (6' 185lbs), I just don't like it and would be afraid that I would be less accurate.
I'd also like something for an elk or moose hunt that I'm saving up for in a couple of years. Frankly, I don't like recoil, and so I'd like to go with either a non-magnum, or one of the smaller magnums, but I definately want something adequate to take anything in N. America with the exception of maybe a grizz. I'm considering .30-06, 7mm mag, .300 WSM, and .300wm. I'm also planning on getting started on reloading soon, and so I thought the combination of a 7mm-08 and 7mm mag would let me use the same bullets for both, or atleast try the same for both.
Because I'm kind of anti-recoil, the thought of a .300wm scares me a bit. Are there any other aspects to this debate that I am overlooking? Does it matter which of those 4 I choose, or would any of them suit me fine? Oh, and it's not that my frame couldn't handle the recoil (6' 185lbs), I just don't like it and would be afraid that I would be less accurate.
#2
RE: caliber advice for big game
If you don't like recoil then don't shoot a .300WM (I assume that is short for Weatherby Magnum). That is a hog of a round but my goodness is shoots sweet. Luckily recoil doesn't bother me at all. However, you could try the Limbsavers buttpads. They claim to reduce recoil by 50%, but who knows. I don't think there is a rifle out there for moose and elk that won't kick pretty hard. If you want a hard hitting round, then you are going to have to put up with the recoil. That is the nature of the beast.
#3
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Missouri
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RE: caliber advice for big game
If your recoil sensitive You shouldn't choose any of the magnums. My suggestion would be to purchase a 280 rem it would be perfect for what you described Its in between the 7mm-08 and 7mag in preformance. The 280 is more than adequate for elk/Moose/caribou etc. with premium 140 gr.+ bullets;and its an awesome deer round. Another fine choice would be the venerable ole 30-06 though the 280 gives slightly better trajectory with less recoil IMHO. With a good Limbsaver pad the 280 is a pleasure to shoot.
#4
RE: caliber advice for big game
ORIGINAL: ShatoDavis
If your recoil sensitive You shouldn't choose any of the magnums. My suggestion would be to purchase a 280 rem it would be perfect for what you described Its in between the 7mm-08 and 7mag in preformance. The 280 is more than adequate for elk/Moose/caribou etc. with premium 140 gr.+ bullets;and its an awesome deer round. Another fine choice would be the venerable ole 30-06 though the 280 gives slightly better trajectory with less recoil IMHO. With a good Limbsaver pad the 280 is a pleasure to shoot.
If your recoil sensitive You shouldn't choose any of the magnums. My suggestion would be to purchase a 280 rem it would be perfect for what you described Its in between the 7mm-08 and 7mag in preformance. The 280 is more than adequate for elk/Moose/caribou etc. with premium 140 gr.+ bullets;and its an awesome deer round. Another fine choice would be the venerable ole 30-06 though the 280 gives slightly better trajectory with less recoil IMHO. With a good Limbsaver pad the 280 is a pleasure to shoot.
I myself use a 7mm rem mag for upto Mooseand find tolerable with a bummed shoulder. I have a Pachmyer Decel Pad on wood stock 700 action, to my shoulder it feels less then my partners 280 rem abolt medallion. His gun is smaller/lighter, factory padand doesn't fit me worth a hoot, no doubt the main reason why I feel it more. Weight and fit of the rifle does make a difference in regards to felt recoil. The aftermarket poads also do help a lot in this area as well.
The 7mm rem mag would certainly do nicely as well but apples to apples in rifle styles/models will recoil sharper& more muzzle blast then the 280.
#5
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Calgary,Alberta,Canada
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RE: caliber advice for big game
For a deer only gun i think that either the 25-06 or the 7mm-08, will do just fine, and as for a bigger game gun that doesnt have too much recoil either go with the 7mm or the 30.06 i for one shot a 30.06 Mossberg with a stock recoil pad and it doesnt bother me at all and i find it drops the elk and moose just fine.
#7
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 10
RE: caliber advice for big game
Faced with the same basic decision to make, I chose the 7mm Rem Mag, because it shoots as flat as the .270 and hits as hard as the 30.06. Its recoil is comparable to the 30.06. I use 140-150 grain bullets for whitetails, and plan to use it this fall for caribou in Quebec, and then for moose in Ontario and elk out west in years to come. But that's just me, and we all know you can't have too many guns
#8
RE: caliber advice for big game
If you want a low-recoil round, then get a 7mm-08 or a .308. I have a .308, and I love it, it doesn't recoil much too, and if you use the 180 grain loads, it'll be enough to take down an elk.
180 grains only recoils 17.2 lbs, or something like that. If you want to help reduce the felt recoil, you should lift weights, and benchpress at the gym. I do that, and it really helps.
180 grains only recoils 17.2 lbs, or something like that. If you want to help reduce the felt recoil, you should lift weights, and benchpress at the gym. I do that, and it really helps.
#9
RE: caliber advice for big game
Get a little spacing between your rounds. If you get a .270, and a .30-06 or a 7mm RM, you've basically bought the same thing twice.
You've got a .243. I'd get two of it's big brothers: a 7mm-08and a .338 Federal. Or, instead of the 7-08, you might consider a .308.
You've got a .243. I'd get two of it's big brothers: a 7mm-08and a .338 Federal. Or, instead of the 7-08, you might consider a .308.
#10
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Gainesvegas, Georgia
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RE: caliber advice for big game
ORIGINAL: huntingson
If you don't like recoil then don't shoot a .300WM (I assume that is short for Weatherby Magnum). That is a hog of a round but my goodness is shoots sweet. Luckily recoil doesn't bother me at all. However, you could try the Limbsavers buttpads. They claim to reduce recoil by 50%, but who knows. I don't think there is a rifle out there for moose and elk that won't kick pretty hard. If you want a hard hitting round, then you are going to have to put up with the recoil. That is the nature of the beast.
If you don't like recoil then don't shoot a .300WM (I assume that is short for Weatherby Magnum). That is a hog of a round but my goodness is shoots sweet. Luckily recoil doesn't bother me at all. However, you could try the Limbsavers buttpads. They claim to reduce recoil by 50%, but who knows. I don't think there is a rifle out there for moose and elk that won't kick pretty hard. If you want a hard hitting round, then you are going to have to put up with the recoil. That is the nature of the beast.