RIFLE SUCCESS POLL
12-03-2002, 10:06 AM
#21
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: wampum pa USA
Posts: 107
RE: RIFLE SUCCESS POLL
After reading this thread & other posts I have come to a few conclusions.1)Mt^Boy posts a legitamate thread that gets BeaverJack all jacked up.2)BeaverJack comes up with great words of wisdom like"a rifle is jus' a tool",well this is true when is the last time anybody killed an animal with a palm sander or cordless drill?3)I think BeaverJack should change his name to Festus I reckon ifn' he want to type like Festus talks,it's apparent that HOOKED ON PHONICS didn't work for him.4)I bust my "arse" for evey animal I've taken.I've been on a few guided hunts that were great.For all the whitetails I've taken in my home state,I scout hard for them & work my "arse" off for my boys & my wife so they can get a chance at them.5)BeaverCrack,I don't think Mt^Boy intended this topic to grand stand killing but it is part of the sport,let me put it in terms you can uderstand"I reckon ifn' noboby did no killin'it wouldn' be called huntin'."Aint I right BeaverSweat?6)Fellers like you "that can crap in a toilet & hit water"probably have listed that as a skill on a resume at one time or another.7) Hunters bein' fixated on guns?Everyone has thier favorite!An jus'so YOU(BeaverJerk)know I DO think a rifle/bullet combination makes a big difference to any & every hunter out there!Would any hunter go brown bear hunting with a 50 grain 22-250 I don't think so!Jes' my opinion BeaverSmack.Yer pack mules probably have a higher I.Q. than you!
Gary Alt is a WEASLE in a Human Suit!
Edited by - Turd Fergusen on 12/03/2002 11:08:11
Gary Alt is a WEASLE in a Human Suit!
Edited by - Turd Fergusen on 12/03/2002 11:08:11
12-03-2002, 11:54 AM
#22
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Montana USA
Posts: 40
RE: RIFLE SUCCESS POLL
I had success with my 280 Rem using 160 grain Grand Slams on both deer and elk.
elk - 375 yards
deer - 80 yards
I also shot an elk with my bow at 17 yards.
You can see the pics here: http://www.cyberport.net/users/gibson/elkhunt.htm
elk - 375 yards
deer - 80 yards
I also shot an elk with my bow at 17 yards.
You can see the pics here: http://www.cyberport.net/users/gibson/elkhunt.htm
12-03-2002, 12:33 PM
#23
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
Posts: 1,665
RE: RIFLE SUCCESS POLL
ELKampMaster, my reply was not to you, it was in reference to Beaver Jacks statement after my pictures saying he was seeing a lot of bone, no meat.
I do have a beef with SOME of the outfitting industry in hunting. My statement spells out my beef, it is turning it into an INDUSTRY. Hunting is being turned into a rich mans sport, and it is obvious by seeing elk hunts go for 5-6K on average, moose hunts go up to 10K, brown bear hunts up to 15K, polar bear over 20K, desert bighorns at a bargain of 50K. I realize the guides need to make money, but my feeling on the issue goes further than that. Hunting is something that is spiritual to me.
On the flip side, I have no problem with other people wanting to use guides, so far I have chosen not to do so. I spent the time and research along with two other board members this year to hunt elk in Montana. Total cost for me and a guy from further east was about $2500 for both of us, that included travel, tags ($1300 right there), and we had the hunt of a lifetime. I'd much rather see that, than pay somebody to provide a "service". My success on that hunt, I had a huge 6X6 screaming back and forth at my buddies calls from 12 yards for nearly 10 minutes. Talk about a rush! I drew back twice, but could not get a clear shot so I didn't risk it. The bull was called to within 12 yards 3 times, each time chuckling and screaming louder and louder in response to the calls. That in itself makes a hunt for me, if it was a purchased hunt though, I doubt it would of for the "client" aka hunter.
Maybe you interpreted my reply wrong, but I'm in no way directing anything negative at you.
Also, clarification, it was 14 caribou for 10 hunters. Maybe that doesn't sound as gongshow-blooper-obscene heavenly, but I can guarantee you that the hunt was more than an antler round up. My hunting buddies son took his first big game animal on this trip, in our eyes it was the best trophy of them all. That caribou was probably a year and a half old. This wasn't a "fly to Quebec with 7 buddies shooting 14 caribou, leaving the meat with the natives and complaining about the cost of shipping the antlers home." This was a friends and family hunt that put meat in the freezer, memories that won't soon be forgotten and 8 people taking their first ever caribou.
Once again I reiterate, these are my personal feelings, I'm not directing them at you or any outfitter. If a couple replies on a topic that you feel is inappropriate makes you leave than I can't help you there. If you felt it was a "scorecard" thread, you had the option to leave your score out.
I do have a beef with SOME of the outfitting industry in hunting. My statement spells out my beef, it is turning it into an INDUSTRY. Hunting is being turned into a rich mans sport, and it is obvious by seeing elk hunts go for 5-6K on average, moose hunts go up to 10K, brown bear hunts up to 15K, polar bear over 20K, desert bighorns at a bargain of 50K. I realize the guides need to make money, but my feeling on the issue goes further than that. Hunting is something that is spiritual to me.
On the flip side, I have no problem with other people wanting to use guides, so far I have chosen not to do so. I spent the time and research along with two other board members this year to hunt elk in Montana. Total cost for me and a guy from further east was about $2500 for both of us, that included travel, tags ($1300 right there), and we had the hunt of a lifetime. I'd much rather see that, than pay somebody to provide a "service". My success on that hunt, I had a huge 6X6 screaming back and forth at my buddies calls from 12 yards for nearly 10 minutes. Talk about a rush! I drew back twice, but could not get a clear shot so I didn't risk it. The bull was called to within 12 yards 3 times, each time chuckling and screaming louder and louder in response to the calls. That in itself makes a hunt for me, if it was a purchased hunt though, I doubt it would of for the "client" aka hunter.
Maybe you interpreted my reply wrong, but I'm in no way directing anything negative at you.
Also, clarification, it was 14 caribou for 10 hunters. Maybe that doesn't sound as gongshow-blooper-obscene heavenly, but I can guarantee you that the hunt was more than an antler round up. My hunting buddies son took his first big game animal on this trip, in our eyes it was the best trophy of them all. That caribou was probably a year and a half old. This wasn't a "fly to Quebec with 7 buddies shooting 14 caribou, leaving the meat with the natives and complaining about the cost of shipping the antlers home." This was a friends and family hunt that put meat in the freezer, memories that won't soon be forgotten and 8 people taking their first ever caribou.
Once again I reiterate, these are my personal feelings, I'm not directing them at you or any outfitter. If a couple replies on a topic that you feel is inappropriate makes you leave than I can't help you there. If you felt it was a "scorecard" thread, you had the option to leave your score out.
12-03-2002, 09:29 PM
#25
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Highlands Out there! Canada
Posts: 100
RE: RIFLE SUCCESS POLL
Anyways.... Reg - Wow, based on the huge variety in responses...apparently any stick that shoots lead is being used on big game out there (from 22-250 to 375HH) <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>
Using the tools analogy - that 'seasoned' carpenter with the old wood handled hammer will sink a nail just as well or better than that young journeyman with the shiny 32oz "Grand Slammer" hammer...I guess the bottom line is spend some time and get a 'feel' for your tools! (but avoid the urge to hit your co-workers with it) <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
hmmmm...hunting styles, educashun, shot placement, snot tastement, distance, size of game, size of game's teeth, ornery old mule, meat in the hole, and tolerance for the Gong...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Thanks guys (for the info. and the laugh) >>> to each his own...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Using the tools analogy - that 'seasoned' carpenter with the old wood handled hammer will sink a nail just as well or better than that young journeyman with the shiny 32oz "Grand Slammer" hammer...I guess the bottom line is spend some time and get a 'feel' for your tools! (but avoid the urge to hit your co-workers with it) <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
hmmmm...hunting styles, educashun, shot placement, snot tastement, distance, size of game, size of game's teeth, ornery old mule, meat in the hole, and tolerance for the Gong...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Thanks guys (for the info. and the laugh) >>> to each his own...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
12-04-2002, 02:00 PM
#26
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Saskatchewan Canada
Posts: 6,921
RE: RIFLE SUCCESS POLL
Very interesting!!
Well my 50 Cal ML provided my family with 120 pound of farmer sausage and beer sticks...not to mention some roast and lovely jerky. Then it was off to a rifle season whitetail hunt with my 7 rem mag...I got a buck. Oh horns don't know but he was a buck cause he had a tally wacker and set of walnuts! All I saw was some big roasts and backstraps wrapped in bacon grunting and running through da' sticks. Well with one single shot to the animal I had my bacon dethawed & BBQ on. (not really sure where I hit em' but he fell and I thanked god for my good fortune!!!)
LMAO, mole hills out of ant hills!
<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Well my 50 Cal ML provided my family with 120 pound of farmer sausage and beer sticks...not to mention some roast and lovely jerky. Then it was off to a rifle season whitetail hunt with my 7 rem mag...I got a buck. Oh horns don't know but he was a buck cause he had a tally wacker and set of walnuts! All I saw was some big roasts and backstraps wrapped in bacon grunting and running through da' sticks. Well with one single shot to the animal I had my bacon dethawed & BBQ on. (not really sure where I hit em' but he fell and I thanked god for my good fortune!!!)
LMAO, mole hills out of ant hills!
<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
12-05-2002, 02:15 PM
#29
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location:
Posts: 6,471
RE: RIFLE SUCCESS POLL
ElkKampmaster...sounds like you had a good plan and it worked out. If I had the knowledge of an area and the pressure within that area I would have done the same exact thing. People that didn't agree with you forget one thing you can try these setups 100 times and 1 time it may be successful. Just plain jealousy if you ask me...I have seen other pictures posted in this same thread and they did not take that kind of abuse.
12-06-2002, 04:53 AM
#30
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Niwot,Colo USA
Posts: 267
RE: RIFLE SUCCESS POLL
Good question.Although I don't believe it defines success.
1 elk (cow)200yrds+-
1 deer(doe)75yrds+-
Both with a 30.06(see user name) Winchester model-70.
I used 165grn.Premium Cor-lokt(my gun likes'em)
As for BeaverJack.These were two kills in four hunts.I busted my butt on all my hunts.As i'm sure most everyone else did also.The meat is just the bonus!And it's just a question.
1 elk (cow)200yrds+-
1 deer(doe)75yrds+-
Both with a 30.06(see user name) Winchester model-70.
I used 165grn.Premium Cor-lokt(my gun likes'em)
As for BeaverJack.These were two kills in four hunts.I busted my butt on all my hunts.As i'm sure most everyone else did also.The meat is just the bonus!And it's just a question.