270 too small?
#31
Typical Buck
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Caliber Bullet/gr Muzzle 100 yards 200 yards 300 yards 400 yards 500 yards
fps/ft lbs 500 yard Drop
270 win Hornady SST 130gr 3200 /2955 2984/2570 2788/2228 2582/1924 2393/1653 2213/1414 -33.7
270 win Hornady SST 140gr 3090/2968 2894/2603 2706/2276 2526/1983 2353/1721 2187/1487 -35.4
7mm-08 Hornady SST 139gr 2950/ 2686 2757 2345 2571/2040 2393/1768 2222 /1524 2059/1308 -39.6
308 win Hornady SST 150gr 3000/2997 2772/2558 2555/2173 2348/1836 2151/1540 1963/1282 -40.7
308 win Hornady SST 165gr 2840/2955 2635/2544 2439/2180 2252/1858 2079/1574 1902/1325 -44.7
30-06 spr Hornady SST 150gr 3080/3159 2848/2700 2627/2298 2417/1945 2216/1636 2025/1366 -38.4
30-06 spr Hornady SST 165gr 2960/3209 2750/2769 2549/2380 2357/2034 2173/1729 1997/1461 -40.7
30-06 spr Hornady SST 180gr 2820/3178 2630/2764 2447/2393 2272/2063 2104/1769 1944/1509 -44.1
This how a 270win stacks up against other standard calibers using the same bullets from the same manufacturer. It's pretty plain it can hold it's own in the short range field and over comes and out preforms in most long range applications. The 270 win has been sold short in many discussions about big game cartridges. Unless it's a magnum it's hard to beat the 270 win as an all around big game cartridge and has plenty of power to do what the rest of the standard calibers do. Especially at longer ranges. I didn't put the 280 rem in the mix but it's right there with the 270win.
Of course there's different bullets and different loads but this is pretty black n white comparison. I too reload my own so I do know about super performance loads as which these loads are done by Hornady.
fps/ft lbs 500 yard Drop
270 win Hornady SST 130gr 3200 /2955 2984/2570 2788/2228 2582/1924 2393/1653 2213/1414 -33.7
270 win Hornady SST 140gr 3090/2968 2894/2603 2706/2276 2526/1983 2353/1721 2187/1487 -35.4
7mm-08 Hornady SST 139gr 2950/ 2686 2757 2345 2571/2040 2393/1768 2222 /1524 2059/1308 -39.6
308 win Hornady SST 150gr 3000/2997 2772/2558 2555/2173 2348/1836 2151/1540 1963/1282 -40.7
308 win Hornady SST 165gr 2840/2955 2635/2544 2439/2180 2252/1858 2079/1574 1902/1325 -44.7
30-06 spr Hornady SST 150gr 3080/3159 2848/2700 2627/2298 2417/1945 2216/1636 2025/1366 -38.4
30-06 spr Hornady SST 165gr 2960/3209 2750/2769 2549/2380 2357/2034 2173/1729 1997/1461 -40.7
30-06 spr Hornady SST 180gr 2820/3178 2630/2764 2447/2393 2272/2063 2104/1769 1944/1509 -44.1
This how a 270win stacks up against other standard calibers using the same bullets from the same manufacturer. It's pretty plain it can hold it's own in the short range field and over comes and out preforms in most long range applications. The 270 win has been sold short in many discussions about big game cartridges. Unless it's a magnum it's hard to beat the 270 win as an all around big game cartridge and has plenty of power to do what the rest of the standard calibers do. Especially at longer ranges. I didn't put the 280 rem in the mix but it's right there with the 270win.
Of course there's different bullets and different loads but this is pretty black n white comparison. I too reload my own so I do know about super performance loads as which these loads are done by Hornady.
#35
I have seen this thread started many times here "Is a 270 big enough". And one man hit it on the head years ago here is his words.
by RedRiver:
IMHO....I would recommend a sharp stick! Here is my logic.....
More game has been killed with it than any other.
It doesn't weigh very much.
It is readily available.
Very little recoil. (Provided you throw it. If you stab him with it you could get a little reverb)
As long as you limit yourself to the range you are comfortable with(i.e. don't try to stab him from a range longer than your stick)and use proper point placement, you will be satisfied with the results!!!
Just remember to get comfortable with your stick and practice sufficiently to acquire the proper confidence.
As an added bonus, when you realize that you have spent all this money, time and effort on what could have been an outstanding hunt, perhaps even the hunt of a lifetime, but yet had to pass up your shot due to the fact that you un-necessarily handicapped yourself by trying to use the least amount of force possible............
you can use your stick to actually do a field study as to whether that realization at that particular point in time is any more painful than a sharp stick in the eye!!! __________________
by RedRiver:
IMHO....I would recommend a sharp stick! Here is my logic.....
More game has been killed with it than any other.
It doesn't weigh very much.
It is readily available.
Very little recoil. (Provided you throw it. If you stab him with it you could get a little reverb)
As long as you limit yourself to the range you are comfortable with(i.e. don't try to stab him from a range longer than your stick)and use proper point placement, you will be satisfied with the results!!!
Just remember to get comfortable with your stick and practice sufficiently to acquire the proper confidence.
As an added bonus, when you realize that you have spent all this money, time and effort on what could have been an outstanding hunt, perhaps even the hunt of a lifetime, but yet had to pass up your shot due to the fact that you un-necessarily handicapped yourself by trying to use the least amount of force possible............
you can use your stick to actually do a field study as to whether that realization at that particular point in time is any more painful than a sharp stick in the eye!!! __________________
#36
I like it !
............but after all you still got to get within the lengh of the stick or throw it and at that you're not going to get good penatration.
...........and you probably won't use it if you had a bow & arrow, handgun, shotgun or rifle.
So, at least "plan" to make a clean Kill ...........Each has it's limitations !!!
............but after all you still got to get within the lengh of the stick or throw it and at that you're not going to get good penatration.
...........and you probably won't use it if you had a bow & arrow, handgun, shotgun or rifle.
So, at least "plan" to make a clean Kill ...........Each has it's limitations !!!
Last edited by Sheridan; 04-25-2012 at 12:32 PM.
#39
A 270 is roughtly a necked-down 30-06.
You will get really good penetration with the 270 but not nearly as much power as with a belted magnum cartridge.
So you may need to do some hiking and tracking to follow the blood trail. If you're on horseback that is no big problem. If not it could be a really big problem.
#40
I have seen this thread started many times here "Is a 270 big enough". And one man hit it on the head years ago here is his words.
by RedRiver:
IMHO....I would recommend a sharp stick! Here is my logic.....
More game has been killed with it than any other.
It doesn't weigh very much.
It is readily available.
Very little recoil. (Provided you throw it. If you stab him with it you could get a little reverb)
As long as you limit yourself to the range you are comfortable with(i.e. don't try to stab him from a range longer than your stick)and use proper point placement, you will be satisfied with the results!!!
Just remember to get comfortable with your stick and practice sufficiently to acquire the proper confidence.
As an added bonus, when you realize that you have spent all this money, time and effort on what could have been an outstanding hunt, perhaps even the hunt of a lifetime, but yet had to pass up your shot due to the fact that you un-necessarily handicapped yourself by trying to use the least amount of force possible............
you can use your stick to actually do a field study as to whether that realization at that particular point in time is any more painful than a sharp stick in the eye!!!
by RedRiver:
IMHO....I would recommend a sharp stick! Here is my logic.....
More game has been killed with it than any other.
It doesn't weigh very much.
It is readily available.
Very little recoil. (Provided you throw it. If you stab him with it you could get a little reverb)
As long as you limit yourself to the range you are comfortable with(i.e. don't try to stab him from a range longer than your stick)and use proper point placement, you will be satisfied with the results!!!
Just remember to get comfortable with your stick and practice sufficiently to acquire the proper confidence.
As an added bonus, when you realize that you have spent all this money, time and effort on what could have been an outstanding hunt, perhaps even the hunt of a lifetime, but yet had to pass up your shot due to the fact that you un-necessarily handicapped yourself by trying to use the least amount of force possible............
you can use your stick to actually do a field study as to whether that realization at that particular point in time is any more painful than a sharp stick in the eye!!!